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"Ramp Mode" A Cook and Hold Feature

 
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BBQ Bob Trudnak



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:55 pm    Post subject: "Ramp Mode" A Cook and Hold Feature Reply with quote

Important: The Ramp Mode does NOT ramp the pit up in temperature. It ramps the pit temperature down proportionally as needed when your "meat done" temperature reaches within 25° of DONE, therefore your meat will NOT overcook. Consider this a "Cook and Hold" feature.
The low-and-slow Ramp Mode works by measuring the temperature inside the meat, comparing it to the meat setpoint and adjusting the pit temperature setpoint to make sure your meat doesn’t get overdone. As the meat gets hotter, the pit temperature is ramped down to make sure that your meat is cooking low and slow. This is the perfect cooking strategy for large cuts of meat such as briskets, pork butts, roasts, etc. which should be cooked at low internal temperatures for long periods of time.

To activate the low-and-slow Ramp Mode, with The BBQ GURU powered off, set the meat setpoint to any temperature (other than off). Then press the power button. On the low-and-slow temperature plot below, notice that as the meat temperature rises, The BBQ GURU causes the pit temperature to fall. It is important to note that when the low-and-slow Ramp Mode is enabled, the pit setpoint knob may not agree with the pit display. This is because The BBQ GURU is automatically lowering the pit setpoint to keep your meat at the proper internal temperature. The temperature that you see flashing on the control’s pit display is the actual pit temperature that has been calculated by the control. When the control senses that the meat has reached the target temperature, the alarm sounds. At this point you can silence the alarm and continue cooking or hold at this temperature. You can also turn the meat control down to hold at an even lower temperature, until guests arrive, etc. This is a great feature for slow cooks or completed rapid cooks.

While using the BBQ Guru in the low-and-slow Ramp Mode, it is possible to start your cook at a higher than normal temperature such as 275°F-300°F to accelerate your low-and-slow cook without compromising moisture, tenderness and flavor. The BBQ Guru will lower the pit temperature as needed to maintain and never exceed your meat done set point. This is a very effective cooking strategy when time is of the essence.
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texanx5



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which models is this ramp available on. Is it only on the upper end products?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's just on the Competitor and ProCom 4...is that right?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigbuddy wrote:
I think it's just on the Competitor and ProCom 4...is that right?


I would think that is correct being the Pitminder has no meat probe which is required for Ramp mode.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: Ramp Reply with quote

Yes, that is correct. The Pit Minder is the only one without Ramp Mode

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How does ramp mode affect cook time? I plan to do a brisket in a BGE and normally I'd use 2hrs/lb. The ramp mode would kick in just as the meat enters the long plateau. Will this greatly extend the cook time?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RexFlyer wrote:
How does ramp mode affect cook time? I plan to do a brisket in a BGE and normally I'd use 2hrs/lb. The ramp mode would kick in just as the meat enters the long plateau. Will this greatly extend the cook time?


Some people use the ramp mode to reduce cook times. This way they can start at a much higher temp and let the ramp mode kick in to bring it down during the collagen conversion process. Bob explains at the bottom of his post above.

Personally, I don't use the ramp on a brisket. I certainly would not use it for the cook and hold feature on a brisket unless it was in tin foil. I set my Guru for 245, pull the brisket when it reaches 190, wrap it in foil and get it on ice packs to rapidly cool it and avoid loosing moisture (only cool it enough to slice, but still warm enough to eat). Might note that I do trim the whole brisket where the flat is easily distinguished from the tips, so they can be separated quickly, leaving the tips on the grill. More info in this post ( http://www.komodokamado.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1667 ).

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 1:01 pm    Post subject: Ramp mode Reply with quote

I've been having problems with burning through a load of charcoal too quickly in ramp mode. Meaningly, I run out of lump before my pork shoulder is done. Any advice?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Ramp mode Reply with quote

himynameischuck wrote:
I've been having problems with burning through a load of charcoal too quickly in ramp mode. Meaningly, I run out of lump before my pork shoulder is done. Any advice?


What type of charcoal and cooker? Will it usually last during the time it takes to cook not in ramp mode? Are you cooking hotter using the ramp mode (as some people cook hotter at first in ramp mode and let it ramp down)?

If I remember correct, you need a minimum of 30 degrees differential between you meat end point and your pit setpoint. Is you cook taking way longer than it does if you are not in ramp mode? If so, may want to use those guidelines and add some to it.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Ramp mode Reply with quote

I generally use BGE or Cowboy lump and can usually hold a temp of 200-225 for twenty four hours when not in ramp mode. If I start ramp mode at 300 with a meat set temp of 180-190, I seem to burn through the lump before my meat is done.
As an aside, I did a pork shoulder for 24 hours at 225 this past week and still had a 1/4 of a load of BGE lump left over, which I thought was pretty impressive.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 8:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Ramp mode Reply with quote

himynameischuck wrote:
I generally use BGE or Cowboy lump and can usually hold a temp of 200-225 for twenty four hours when not in ramp mode. If I start ramp mode at 300 with a meat set temp of 180-190, I seem to burn through the lump before my meat is done.
As an aside, I did a pork shoulder for 24 hours at 225 this past week and still had a 1/4 of a load of BGE lump left over, which I thought was pretty impressive.


Ok, that is a big difference in temp the grill has to maintain, so I can see why it is running out. Try starting at 250 in ramp mode instead. Are you using ramp mode for the cook and hold ability or trying to speed up your pork shoulder cooking time? If it just to speed it up, try cooking at 240-245 for the entire cook and don't use the ramp mode (that is what I do).

Another trick if you are trying to speed up time or increase efficiency (I am gonna assume you are using a BGE?) is to make a heat diffuser instead of using your heat deflector. I am cooking on a komodokamado ceramic and it cut my time almost 20% with better texture on the meat. Here is a link to my discussion on another forum ( http://www.komodokamado.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2194&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15 ). You can check out the entire thread to see the evolution of my idea.

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